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Machiavelli: "Better to be loved than feared?" (Discussion)

lucyinthesky saidMon, 15 Dec 2008 05:10:42 -0000 ( Link )

“Here a question arises: whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the reverse. The answer is, of course, that it would be best to be both loved and feared. But since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.”

This is a passage from Niccolo Machiavelli’s book “The Prince”. What do you think about this statement? What is he trying to say? Do you agree with him?

I think the main point he’s trying to get across is that fear is more reliable than love. As we all know, the feeling of “love” can be easily broken should a certain circumstance occur. But fear has the ability to take a hold of us and is very hard to break, in contrast to love. Your thoughts? Do you think he’s being perhaps too cynical? Or just realistic?

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  1. rkmittal saidTue, 16 Dec 2008 04:56:39 -0000 ( Link )

    This question – rather dilemma – again has its root in the basic question – What is love (read ‘true’ love) for human beings? I don’t think it requires a great philosophical explanation as to what is the naturally cherished aspiration, common to all beings – from a newly born child to an old man, an introvert to an extrovert, selfish to altruist and so on – It is ‘Love’, ‘to be loved’! It is another matter that fear arises in any situation naturally liked by us out of our another feeling (fear) of “not losing such naturally liked/loved situation/person”. You would find such conflicts in all situations of life/nature. This is so because of our clinging too much and our one sided attitude to a particular situation/feeling. I believe as we grow and pass through our life experiences, we realise this (conflict) gradually and the need to train our attitude to be able to successfully cope up with all kinds of situations. With the right attitude, we should be able to rise above any fear that comes in our natural feeling of love!

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  2. oLahav saidTue, 16 Dec 2008 18:55:46 -0000 ( Link )

    I never bought into Machiavelli’s Prince ideas. The thing that always got me was- let’s say everyone started behaving according to his principles. What would happen then? Everyone would backstab and manipulate each other for more power, which would cause power to constantly fluctuate between individuals, resulting in a chaotic environment.

    Basically, I’d rather be loved than feared. As a leader I’ve tried both, and I actually managed to find a nice combination, but being solely feared would result in a very ineffective form of leadership that causes compliance but no committment, in my opinion.

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  3. Derick saidSun, 21 Dec 2008 17:22:07 -0000 ( Link )

    I agree with oLahav’s sentiment. May elaborate later.

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  4. lucyinthesky saidWed, 24 Dec 2008 01:11:36 -0000 ( Link )

    Darn, I thought someone would at least agree a bit with what he has to say. I would have to agree with Machiavelli. Obviously I think it’s a very good thing to be loved, as a person or a leader, but when that option is unavailable or if you are in a situation where you want to be in control, sometimes it’s better to be feared. Not necessarily that one should be scared OF you, but rather scared of what would happen WITHOUT you. That’s the difference between being able to let something go as opposed to wanting to have it forever.

    I think his ideas are realistic in the sense that he considers stability (political or otherwise) the most important. It’s easier to flake on someone you love than on someone you fear.

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